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In some more from that Pat Conroy Insiders interview, the minister defended a new deal with India allowing it to buy Australian uranium despite not being a signatory to the international nuclear non-proliferation treaty.

During the week, with the Indian prime minister, Narendra Modi, visiting Australia, the two countries announced a a new uranium deal which Anthony Albanese said would enable uranium exports to flow to India for “peaceful purposes” – mainly, energy production.

Governments of both persuasions, both the liberal, previous government and our government have been working towards putting in place safeguards, so that we are confident that the uranium will only be used for their domestic energy production.

We’re satisfied that the systems are in place for that. And that’s why we’ve been in the position to reach the agreement that we’ve been.

We’re responsible for what our uranium is used for.

What India does with its uranium is a question for them.

What we’re seeing in the region is the biggest arms race, the biggest buildup of military since 1945 and concerningly, that is occurring without any transparency or strategic reassurance.

This is a race where we need to make sure that the Ausrtalian Defence Force has the best possible equipment, and that’s why we’re providing the biggest peacetime increase in defence funding ever.

We’re prepared for a conflict in our region. Everyone is working very hard to avoid it.